tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post6267470598109055862..comments2023-10-30T20:33:13.380+10:30Comments on the paper drunkards: Couragethe paper drunkardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14282542514339651070noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-48620819480984740492007-08-23T20:06:00.000+09:302007-08-23T20:06:00.000+09:30Shucks, thanks Milly ... and I actually think that...Shucks, thanks Milly ... and I actually think that would be a hilarious review!<BR/><BR/>Redcap: (sticks tongue out in very mature response) Excellent!Arielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17570339715916432947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-51001228247442337782007-08-23T19:35:00.000+09:302007-08-23T19:35:00.000+09:30ariel, no - please restrict your responses to thre...ariel, no - please restrict your responses to three words or fewer. He he he. Of course it is, silly. That's what the comments are for - discussion and a good old-fashioned argument.redcaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01916750858980883634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-53642103266289793992007-08-23T19:24:00.000+09:302007-08-23T19:24:00.000+09:30Wow, Ariel - you've certainly set a pretty high st...Wow, Ariel - you've certainly set a pretty high standard for book reviews and yours is just an ad-hoc one...! I guess if I choose 'Catch 22' then my review of:<BR/>Initially Confusing, then hilariously funny<BR/>....might be a tad brief?<BR/><BR/>As for Steve, I agree with you. He was doing what he loved - the preservation of all things furry and scaled occurred later on - he was going to hassle the crocs and yank out snakes from under stones regardless....Kath Locketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09677312773827236567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-62201205002205250532007-08-23T19:11:00.000+09:302007-08-23T19:11:00.000+09:30Hmmm, I hope I'm doing the book (and author) justi...Hmmm, I hope I'm doing the book (and author) justice. The part you quote is my interpretation of her definition, not her exact words. But yes, I see what you mean about where her domestic violence action fits in - and agree.<BR/><BR/>And Irwin ... ah, I could agree that - if we're talking about actions separate from the animal antics, where he did certain things despite opposition - that could be defined as courage. I don't know enough about what he did outside his life in the media circus ring. Are you trying to make me find out more about Steve Irwin so I can get my theory straight? :)<BR/><BR/>Sakura, I think you're spot on:<BR/><BR/>'you don't really hear about the most courageous acts that go on in this world, perhaps because they aren't all glitter and glam' <BR/><BR/>That's part of what I like about this book - it's not just high profile definitions of courage, it's how ordinary people live their lives.<BR/><BR/>(Redcap, hope it's okay to write long blathery responses here as I'm doing!)Arielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17570339715916432947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-54983870148197570132007-08-23T18:43:00.000+09:302007-08-23T18:43:00.000+09:30Great review arial. Sounds like a facinating book....Great review arial. Sounds like a facinating book. I agree that courage is something is so hard to find or you don't really hear about the most courageous acts that go on in this world, perhaps becaus they aren't all glitter and glam. I don't know, maybe I am talking out of my ... ... ears here. But again, great review.Sakurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12640715345008175571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-16094998309673767762007-08-23T18:07:00.000+09:302007-08-23T18:07:00.000+09:30Good response Ariel and I agree that she was very ...Good response Ariel and I agree that she was very courageous to confront her neighbour....but she said <I>"Heroism is about extraordinary actions in extraordinary circumstances – the kinds of things that many of us will never even have the chance to do, <B>and is often done on instinct, without thinking"</B> </I> so in her words she was a Hero but in my eyes hero and courage go hand in hand. Hero is a word bandied about so much nowadays that it has almost lost its real meaning. I agree that Steve Irwin was not a hero and that he would have and did wrestle crocs when the camera and others where not there to witness it but I still think he was courageous in his endeavours. He stood up to those that would oppose him and his cause and generally won. Are you trying to make me go out and read this book now? :)Scorpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203322219391097955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-85692344646167940152007-08-23T16:41:00.000+09:302007-08-23T16:41:00.000+09:30Ah well, we can't all sip from the same cup of tea...Ah well, we can't all sip from the same cup of tea ...<BR/><BR/>Good and interesting points Scorpy - and I will go back to the book to address your first one. She didn't specifically say that her action with the domestic violence was courageous, but I think it was - I think that it falls into the category of pushing past your comort zone to achieve or protect something you belive in. And I think, sadly, domestic violence is a pretty everyday thing in a lot of people's lives and there are many, many people who would see and hear it and do nothing at all.<BR/><BR/>I think Steve Irwin's animal wrangling was akin to a kid jumping wheelie bins on his BMX - he did it for the thrill of it rather than to achieve anything. Separate to that was his work for conservation, which made him a good person and someone to be admired, but not a hero or courageous. I think Irwin would have wrestled crocodiles by himself (or in front of his mates) at home for the sheer joy of it if nobody was watching.Arielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17570339715916432947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-85402417299681847982007-08-23T15:47:00.000+09:302007-08-23T15:47:00.000+09:30If she rushed into a Domestic dispute to rescue a ...If she rushed into a Domestic dispute to rescue a woman and her children then isn't that, by her own definition, heroism and not courage? If she is really writing about courage then YES Steve Irwin was courageous (maybe a little luny) but all the same it took courage to wrestle crocodiles for the betterment, eventually, of the species and to the other animals and environments that he managed to save thru his donations and foundations...though, I too do not think of him as a hero.<BR/>Great review though...very insightful but I'm afraid not my cup of tea. Thanks :)Scorpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203322219391097955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-59166198564048905822007-08-22T22:47:00.000+09:302007-08-22T22:47:00.000+09:30Yay ariel for getting in and doing the first! I wa...Yay ariel for getting in and doing the first! I was afraid the crowd was going to turn on me if I bollocksed on much longer before the main act started ;)<BR/><BR/>It does sound like a really interesting book. I love the imagery of private school kids sneezing privilege. And I've never quite understood how dying doing something you enjoyed made dying any damned better. Big bloody deal! The guy's dead now and I'm sure if he were able to think, he wouldn't be that bloody happy about the whole idea. When someone dies at work by being crushed under a tractor or a forklift, does anyone say, "Gosh he loved his safety-orange vest."<BR/><BR/>Ripper review, missy! Keep 'em coming everyone :Dredcaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01916750858980883634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6363999539728413766.post-65790948749938610692007-08-22T22:30:00.000+09:302007-08-22T22:30:00.000+09:30Good review - you've sold me.Good review - you've sold me.Melanie Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16388416934911587063noreply@blogger.com